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Tara Belfast update 09
sorry so soon for Tara Belfast update 09  after 08
its the bus thing .....
and  because of the radio documentary which goes out AGAIN - this afternoon  ( Sunday )
and have been shown how to use Bcc ( blind carbon copy ) so not everyone's email addresses go out on each letter which is better " netiquette "
 -  I hope it works -
the Radio Ulster documentary was brilliant - I think its going out again tomorow ( today ) - Sunday - at 2.30pm
Seamus Heaney has finally rolled himself out to say a few words on the subject
and there are many other good interviews as well -
wonderful  music too .... class work from Radio Ulster !  - and perhaps makes up for letting Hugo Duncan onto the radio at all -
In the Papers
Heaney hits at 'desecration' of sacred Tara
The Nobel laureate condemns a motorway plan and says the site was safer
under British rule
* Henry McDonald, Ireland editor
* The Observer,
* Sunday March 2 2008
* http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/mar/02/northernireland.tara
  which SHOULD be embarassing  - more about this Documentary further down the letter
also probably continuing the Northern Tara Connections trail , by going to Armagh

for various reasons - the statue of Nuada now sat  in the protestant cathedral being one -


- no cars though as far as I know
which means its probably a bus - and probably from the Bus Station rather than St Annes
ring me if you want to come along or to meet up there -
also - Minister John Gormley seems to have promised Live on the Pat Kenny Show that the preservation order on Rath Lugh will be renewed !
this makes it Official - a bit like the Queens Speech in the UK but it should now happen
as there is an audience of millions and a tape somewhere
hooray !   the badgers are Safe !
...or at least some of them - the Preservation Order is only on a part of the esker  - but better than none
really of course it should ALL be protected

Just from talking to Oscar at the market I started looking up about the Gabhra valley - the setting for so much of the Mythic history and I will type this up but if I start now this will not get sent today


Sinn Fein Ard Fheis
Gerry Adams mentoned Tara in his speech

I beleve the whole speech is at http://www.sinnfein.ie/news/av/59  but this is the Tara bit -

which is nice but rather vague
and doesnt say anything about railways - sustainable development  - reducing carbon emissions - cutting the need to commute - peacefulness - sacred places in Ireland and Worldwide - history or wildlife
- but you wouldnt get that into a split second and someone who had listened to the audio says there was tumultuous applause anyway  -

 the only party giving any real support here to the Campaign are the SDLP here  and specifically Carmel Hanna

and the Labour Party in the South - and some Independants
- not the Green Party of course except a few individual within it
cos - well - they got the foreman's job at last  ( old song )
but Carmel is taking it to Stormont and will need as much support as possible from as widely as possible

Historical Letter

From: The Times June 27 1902
To: The Editor of The Times (London)

Sir- We have just returned from a visit to the Hill of Tara, where we found that the work of destruction, abandoned a year or two ago, has begun again. Labourers are employed to dig through the mounds and ditches that mark the site of the ancient Royal duns and houses. We saw them digging and shovelling without any supervision, hopelessly mixing the different layers of earth and altering the contour of the hill.

This is not being done through any antiquarian zeal; but; appartently, that the sect which believes the English to be descended from the Ten Tribes may find the Ark of the Covenant

We are assured that the Commissioners of Public Works in Ireland can do nothing in this case, for by the Ancients Monuments Protection Act of 1882 they can only interfere when the “owner” has himself “constituted” them “the guardians of the monument.”

All we can do under the circumstances is to draw the attention of the public to this desecration. Tara is, because of its associations, probably the most consecrated spot in Ireland, and its destruction will leave many bitter memories behind

We are, Sir, yours truly

Douglas Hyde, LL.D
George Moore
W. B. Yeats

Dublin, June 24
talking of the days when poets were ...I wont start - but
there are some poems on this subject at
I like this one
http://www.tarataratara.net/Tara_Burgess.htm  ; )
please feel free to circulate any of them - or of course , WRITE one



BTW - some people have asked what the hell is going on on the yahoo groups  - there is squabbling that would discrace a sackful of cats

just want to say that - yes there is - but ignore it as it mainly is a couple of people with too much time at the computer - everyone to do with the Vigil Camps are just fine

 but mostly not online

but if anyone REally wants to know what the infighting is about - just ask and I will try to explain ........ 8-|

...... it will involve Sun Signs and Biorythms - Beelzebub - .......Lizards  - and the Illuminattii....


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Heaney hits out over 'tar on Tara'
Diarmaid Fleming
BBC News

The construction of a motorway by the Irish Government through one of Ireland's most historic areas has been condemned in a BBC Radio Ulster documentary, Tar on Tara, by the country's foremost poet, Seamus Heaney, and other international experts.

The M3 motorway is well under construction through the lush green and historical countryside of County Meath.

Ireland's biggest ever road project stretches 61km and is expected to cost around 800m euros.

The motorway will take traffic north of Dublin, serving towns such as Kells and Navan in County Meath, and counties Cavan, Fermanagh and Donegal beyond.

Towns in Meath and Cavan are now home to thousands of people working in Dublin many unable to afford to live there due to high property prices in the Irish capital.

Seamus Heaney

This is the poet's first broadcast interview on the issue

Numerous new housing estates have sprung up in towns and villages during Ireland's recent economic boom.

The speed of house-building has not been matched with investment in transport however, meaning that all commuters are forced to rely on road transport to get to Dublin. The area's only railway line is used for freight only.

Best jams

The existing N3 road hosts the country's worst traffic jams outside of Dublin, with trips between the city and Cavan 70 miles away taking well over two hours and sometimes even longer during rush-hour.

Cars, trucks and buses snake in long lines through towns like Dunshaughlin, choking them for hours in mornings and evenings.

The government decided a motorway was needed, with a new route away from the existing N3 road, instead bringing it through an area which is described by archaeologists internationally as the most important in Ireland and of world significance.

The road under construction will run through the Tara Skreen valley, an area which has been of historical and religious significance in Ireland for thousands of years, with archaeological finds dating back to 4000BC.

The Tara complex is bounded by the Hill of Tara, seat of the ancient High Kings of Ireland, and a place of sacred worship in both pagan and Christian times.

If ever there was a place that deserved to be preserved in the name of the dead generations from pre-historic times up to historic times up to completely recently - it was Tara
Seamus Heaney

Because the area represents such a long continuum of history - compared to other world famous monuments such as Stonehenge covering a shorter period of time - archaeologists say Tara is of extreme value in world terms.

Each generation has followed the next in their reverence for the area, allowing archaeological experts to tell the story of civilisation in Ireland, as well as historical and religious worship, through the messages in its landscape and the artefacts left in its soil.

Neither the National Roads Authority (NRA) nor the Irish minister for transport and local Meath TD Noel Dempsey were prepared to be interviewed for the documentary.

The NRA has said however, that the road was chosen after public consultation, and that its choice was influenced by a range of factors it has to consider, of which archaeology is only one.

Other factors such as the need to demolish homes, and to go through environmentally sensitive areas also had to be taken into account, the authority says.

But critics say that the area, because of its unique sacred and historical importance, should never have been contemplated as the route for the road in the first place.


Seamus Heaney in his first broadcast interview on the subject, told BBC Radio Ulster that the plan was a "ruthless desecration".

"I think it literally desecrates an area - I mean the word means to de-sacralise and for centuries the Tara landscape and the Tara sites have been regarded as part of the sacred ground," he said.

"I was just thinking actually the Proclamation of the Irish Republic in 1916 summoned people in the name of the dead generations and called the nation, called the people in the name of the dead generations.

"If ever there was a place that deserved to be preserved in the name of the dead generations from pre-historic times up to historic times up to completely recently, it was Tara."

The Nobel Laureate also said that under British rule in Ireland, Tara appeared to have more protection than in today's Irish Republic.

Tara Skreen valley
TWork on the 800m euro project is already well under way

He said: "I was reading around recently and I discovered that WB Yeats and George Moore, two writers at the turn of the century and Arthur Griffith, wrote a letter to the Irish Times sometime at the beginning of the last century because a society called the British Israelites had thought that the Arc of the Covenant was buried in Tara, and they had started to dig on Tara Hill.

"And they wrote this letter and they talked about the desecration of a consecrated landscape. So I thought to myself if a few holes in the ground made by amateur archaeologists was a desecration, what is happening to that whole countryside being ripped up is certainly a much more ruthless piece of work."

Mr Heaney said that the Celtic Tiger was attacking the ancient symbol of Ireland, the harp.

"It will be a sort of signal that the priorities on these islands have changed, I mean the Tiger is now lashing its tail and smashing its way through the harp - the strings of the harp are being lashed by the tail of the tiger," he said.

Heaney said that Tara was unique to him as an Irishman.

"Tara means something equivalent to me to what Delphi means to the Greeks or maybe Stonehenge to an English person or Nara in Japan, which is one of the most famous sites in the world," he said.

"It's a word that conjures an aura - it conjures up what they call in Irish dúchas, a sense of belonging , a sense of patrimony, a sense of an ideal, an ideal of the spirit if you like, that belongs in the place and if anywhere in Ireland conjures that up - it's Tara - it's a mythical site of course.

"I mean the traces on Tara are in the grass, are in the earth - they aren't spectacular like temple ruins would be in the Parthenon in Greece but they are about origin, they're about beginning, they're about the mythological, spiritual source - a source and a guarantee of something old in the country and something that gives the country its distinctive spirit."

It was a government which decided that these monuments would be erased and cultural erasure is part of the game of war and buildings very often suffer from that
Dr Jonathan Foyle

Tara has been placed by the New York-headquartered World Monuments Fund (WMF) on its list of the world's 100 most endangered sites.

WMF UK chief executive Dr Jonathan Foyle was scathing of the Irish government's actions in routing the motorway through the valley, saying it ranked with the actions of the Taleban regime in Afghanistan.

"The World Monuments Fund watch list contains all sorts of endangered sites - this one actually reminds me of the Bamiyan Buddhas which were destroyed by the Taleban in 2001 against international uproar," said Dr Foyle.

"It was a government which decided that these monuments would be erased and cultural erasure is part of the game of war and buildings very often suffer from that.

"It's scarcely more creditable to say we will destroy a building which is of equal significance to the Bamiyan Buddhas - let's face it, this entire site is the equivalent of Stonehenge, Westminster Abbey for its royal associations, Canterbury for its Christian associations - all rolled into one."

Hundreds of academics, archaeologists and conservationist from around the world have written to the Irish government to register their opposition to the M3 route.

Twenty-seven members of the European Parliament have written to the government also, after a visit to the area by some resulted in a highly critical report of the project.


The European Commission is considering legal action against the Irish government which granted itself the powers in 2004 to destroy features or areas of archaeological importance classified as national monuments if in the national interest.

These powers were granted after the government lost a battle in the Irish Supreme Court against archaeological campaigners over the destruction of another monument during the construction of part of the M50 motorway in Dublin.

A national monument at Lismullen close to Tara was discovered last year when an ancient "henge" or ceremonial temple was unearthed in the route of the M3 on 1 April, and then destroyed after its features were recorded.

While experts agreed the henge remnants could not be preserved once exposed, the European Commission is considering legal action over the European legality of Irish law relating to the powers the government has granted itself to destroy national monuments.

However, any action will not stop the road, well under construction by Irish and Spanish joint-venture SIAC Ferrovial, and expected to be completed within two years.

While Irish government politicians and supporters of the motorway such as business organisations frequently claim the road - and not the archaeologists - have the support of the majority of people, a recent opinion poll suggests the opposite. A national poll by Red C Research said that 62% opposed the route of the road, almost double the 32% in favour.

But whatever the views now, those who want to see the motorway come to Tara have won the day.

Future generations studying Tara will see the 21st century's major contribution to an area charting thousands of years of civilisation in Ireland was the new M3 motorway and its associated development.

Tar on Tara is broadcast on BBC Radio Ulster at 1430 GMT on Sunday 2 March.

Radio Ulster Documentary - 1st March 2008  - play  -